談

See also: 谈
談 U+8AC7, 談
CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-8AC7
← 諆
[U+8AC6] 		CJK Unified Ideographs 諈 →
[U+8AC8]

Translingual

Han character

談 (Kangxi radical 149, 言+8, 15 strokes, cangjie input 卜口火火 (YRFF), four-corner 09689, composition ⿰訁炎)

Derived characters
  • 𡃘

References
  • KangXi: page 1167, character 11
  • Dai Kanwa Jiten: character 35633
  • Dae Jaweon: page 1632, character 22
  • Hanyu Da Zidian (first edition): volume 6, page 3992, character 7
  • Unihan data for U+8AC7

Chinese
trad. 談
simp. 谈
alternative forms 譚／谭

Glyph origin
Characters in the same phonetic series (炎) (Zhengzhang, 2003) 
Old Chinese
倓 *l'oːmʔ, *l'aːm, *l'aːms
緂 *l̥ʰaːm, *l̥ʰaːmʔ, *l̥ʰjam
毯 *l̥ʰaːmʔ
菼 *l̥ʰaːmʔ
裧 *l̥ʰaːmʔ, *l̥ʰjam, *l̥ʰjams
賧 *l̥ʰaːms
睒 *l̥ʰaːms, *hljamʔ
舕 *l̥ʰaːms
談 *l'aːm
郯 *l'aːm
惔 *l'aːm, *l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms
錟 *l'aːm
淡 *l'aːm, *l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms, *lamʔ
痰 *l'aːm
餤 *l'aːm
啖 *l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms
腅 *l'aːms
剡 *ɦljamʔ, *lamʔ
覢 *hljamʔ
掞 *hljams
炎 *ɦlam
琰 *lamʔ
棪 *lamʔ
扊 *lamʔ

Phono-semantic compound (形聲, OC *l'aːm) : semantic 言 (“speech”) + phonetic 炎 (OC *ɦlam).

Etymology

From Proto-Sino-Tibetan *g-tam ~ g-dam.

Pronunciation

  • Dialectal data
Variety Location 談
Mandarin Beijing /tʰan³⁵/
Harbin /tʰan²⁴/
Tianjin /tʰan⁴⁵/
Jinan /tʰã⁴²/
Qingdao /tʰã⁴²/
Zhengzhou /tʰan⁴²/
Xi'an /tʰã²⁴/
Xining /tʰã²⁴/
Yinchuan /tʰan⁵³/
Lanzhou /tʰɛ̃n⁵³/
Ürümqi /tʰan⁵¹/
Wuhan /tʰan²¹³/
Chengdu /tʰan³¹/
Guiyang /tʰan²¹/
Kunming /tʰã̠³¹/
Nanjing /tʰʰaŋ²⁴/
Hefei /tʰæ̃⁵⁵/
Jin Taiyuan /tʰæ̃¹¹/
Pingyao /tʰɑŋ¹³/
Hohhot /tʰæ̃³¹/
Wu Shanghai /de²³/
Suzhou /de̞¹³/
Hangzhou /dẽ̞²¹³/
Wenzhou /da³¹/
Hui Shexian /tʰɛ⁴⁴/
Tunxi /tʰɔ⁴⁴/
Xiang Changsha /tan¹³/
Xiangtan /dan¹²/
Gan Nanchang /tʰan²⁴/
Hakka Meixian /tʰam¹¹/
Taoyuan /tʰɑm¹¹/
Cantonese Guangzhou /tʰam²¹/
Nanning /tʰam²¹/
Hong Kong /tʰam²¹/
Min Xiamen (Min Nan) /tam³⁵/
Fuzhou (Min Dong) /taŋ⁵³/
Jian'ou (Min Bei) /tʰaŋ²¹/
Shantou (Min Nan) /tʰam⁵⁵/
Haikou (Min Nan) /ham³¹/
Rime
Character 談
Reading # 1/1
Initial (聲) 定 (7)
Final (韻) 談 (143)
Tone (調) Level (Ø)
Openness (開合) Open
Division (等) I
Fanqie 徒甘切
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang
Shangfang		 /dɑm/
Pan
Wuyun		 /dɑm/
Shao
Rongfen		 /dɑm/
Edwin
Pulleyblank		 /dam/
Li
Rong		 /dɑm/
Wang
Li		 /dɑm/
Bernard
Karlgren		 /dʱɑm/
Expected
Mandarin
Reflex		 tán
Expected
Cantonese
Reflex		 taam4
Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character 談
Reading # 1/1
Modern
Beijing
(Pinyin)		 tán
Middle
Chinese		 ‹ dam ›
Old
Chinese		 /*lˁ[o]m/
English speak

Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system:

* Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence;
* Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p;
* Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix;
* Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary;

* Period "." indicates syllable boundary.
Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character 談
Reading # 1/1
No. 14292
Phonetic
component		 炎
Rime
group		 談
Rime
subdivision		 1
Corresponding
MC rime		 談
Old
Chinese		 /*l'aːm/

Definitions

談

  1. to talk; to converse
    面談／面谈  ―  miàntán  ―  to talk to someone face-to-face
    談判／谈判  ―  tánpàn  ―  to negotiate
  2. to discuss; to chat
    談論／谈论  ―  tánlùn  ―  to discuss
    談天／谈天  ―  tántiān  ―  to chat
  3. ⁜ remark; conversation
    奇談／奇谈  ―  qítán  ―  surprising remark
    趣談／趣谈  ―  qùtán  ―  amusing remark
  4. † to praise
  5. a surname

Compounds
Derived terms from 談

References

Japanese

Kanji
談

(grade 3 “Kyōiku” kanji)

  1. story
  2. talk, conversation

Readings

Compounds

Korean

Hanja

談 (eumhun 말씀 담 (malsseum dam))

  1. Hanja form? of 담 (“conversation”).

Compounds

Vietnamese

Han character

談: Hán Nôm readings: đàm, giạm

  1. chữ Hán form of đàm.
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